Basically the two words mean the same thing. Rake is a more modern word,
but the word ramble can be found in many of the older publications. Also, I
believe that "rake" is more commonly used with tipplers while "ramble" is
more of a term for when homing pigeons do bascially the same thing. Sort of
like the terms "kit" and "stock".
By WILLIAM G. HOFFMAN, North Linthicum, Md.
When written: American Pigeon Journal May 1959
Some years ago I had the pleasant privilege of exchanging quite a few
letters with one John Van Der Wel, who at that time was the Secretary of the
Netherlands Tippler Club. He used to write about every conceivable topic
concerning Tipplers. Like all Dutchmen, he was a very serious person, but
From what I take from Mr. Curley's statement is this. The English Flying
Tippler is a standalone breed of endurance pigeon second to none. Others
however refer to their different breeds of high flying pigeons using the
generic term Tipplers to describe their birds.
What is the difference between a "breed" or a "strain"?
This particular question is one with definite and no-definite answers all
mixed into one. Let's take Oriental Frills as an example. About 150 years
ago or so, the Brits brought some back from the mid-east (likely around
Turkey) and started to breed them.
A spoilt bird is a bird that has deemed to have made a mistake in training
or in competition, DROPPING AWAY, LANDING ON ROOFS, BEING MISSED IN THE
DARK, etc, etc
You bet when the pressure is on, the spoilt bird from the kit will repeat
the mistake before the rest of unspoilt team.
Tipplers are creatures of habit, once they break the habit in which they
have been controlled ,they are
I and others agree with what constitutes a ET,having the term highflyer used
in the same tense as a ET makes me uncomfortable.
We have many fanciers in this country who fly ET with crossed birds, by that
I mean a F1 cross that produce the vigour that is required or indeed what
the fancier requires for the "sole" aim of being the first past the post.
You know, I've been reading this stuff for a long time. I've finally reached
what I feel is an understanding of all sides to the issue, but frankly, I
just don't think it is necessary to get all so upset on such things,
especially you Nino for we all know how deeply passionate you are on these
subjects. ;) Yet, allow me to concisely put forward my own opinion.
I will not go out of any other country then mine, there's a lot of fanciers
that they call a tippler all birds that they don't have curl on their head,
I don't have a problem if they do, but they are not English Tippler, we all
know how English Tippler look like, now who can make the rules for English
Tipplers? I think England, as they produced this race, and since this is
their own race we should fly under their rules, I don't see a problem if we
adjust little bit lights/hawks etc, like we did in ITF, but we should not
I thought the same thing when we put this message on the front of the CNTU
newsletter (photo attached). Actually the motto came from you when you
created the old CNTU website. I liked it so much that I kept it and used it
to this day. Later on it got changed to "Dedicated to the Flying Tipplers"
to make the distinction from the show type like you said.
